Subject	You are right, you don't get it. As a business man
Posted by	AzHeat on September 16, 2004 at 2:06 AM
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In Reply To	I don't get it. posted by chris@boostpro.net on September 15, 2004 at 09:42 PM
Message	you should have done your research on the market . The four P's of marketing, Price, Product, Packaging, Placement. You failed on all four P's. You failed to relize what the alternatives were to your product (DIY hardware store parts that do the same thing). You failed to understand your potential customers. If you were selling this on a Porsche forum, you would probably get more bites because Porsche owners don't care about $30 because they are in higher income bracket and may not be do-it-yourself types. You failed to relize that using a bike hand pump may not be adequate for pressurizing to find boost leaks. You used the wrong fittings. Before offering any product, ask yourself, would you buy something like this for this price , why or why not? Ask your peers the same question. What is the competition like? Just basic marketing principles people never take the time to research.
Follow Ups	I don't get it. - chris@boostpro.net 21:42:55 09/15/04 I like the name change - MyZ8u 21:50:51 09/15/04 While your efforts are appreciated, your implimentation - Guapo 21:52:26 09/15/04 correction .. put not infront of just a businessman. (n/m) - chris@boostpro.net 22:05:27 09/15/04 So how do you explain Starbucks? - olyar15 22:23:51 09/15/04 how you maknig coffeee for less than $1? - dogpile 22:28:15 09/15/04 Damn you and your logic! - xtensive 22:32:26 09/15/04 7-11 $0.99 coffee $$$ (n/m) - MarkA(NoVA) 22:49:09 09/15/04 thats not making it himself (n/m) - dogpile 22:57:23 09/15/04 Are you being sarcastic??? You're so far off... - SooperZ95 02:17:37 09/16/04 Wow. - AbnormallyAspirated 03:03:24 09/16/04 its not $1 right off the bat - dogpile 04:57:38 09/16/04 Do people bitch about the prices at Starbucks? - Guapo 22:32:40 09/15/04 Actually, if nobody bitches about the price, it is probably - olyar15 22:50:18 09/15/04 "no need for pizza delievery"????? - dogpile 22:59:23 09/15/04 Okay, fine. We all pay for conveniences. What is reasonable - Guapo 23:02:15 09/15/04 What the hell kind of reasoning is that? - CaptK(ATL) 23:23:14 09/15/04 ding (n/m) - Spee 23:24:59 09/15/04 I thought I just said that? :) (n/m) - Guapo 09:01:32 09/16/04 *cough* - Fuzznutz 00:07:15 09/16/04 Re: *cough* - Guapo 08:59:32 09/16/04 Then why don't you start - Fuzznutz 11:35:08 09/16/04 Re: While your efforts are appreciated, your implimentation - Dustin 21:25:44 09/16/04 Just goes to show you, everybody wants somethin' for nuthin' - RAGTPZ(OH) 23:16:59 09/15/04 ?? (n/m) - Spee 23:21:24 09/15/04 Meaning that people were flaming him for 'ripping' people - RAGTPZ(OH) 08:42:51 09/16/04 I agree with you 100% - Spee 14:20:29 09/16/04 I couldn't agree more! - ZEngineer (TT) 12:39:28 09/16/04 .... (n/m) - Spee 17:05:59 09/16/04 so give him $30 for one. (n/m) - Guapo 23:06:11 09/16/04 sigh (n/m) - aliaZ (broken in) 23:09:34 09/16/04 You are right, you don't get it. As a business man - AzHeat 02:06:52 09/16/04 wrong fittings? ive used my fitting 100x - chris@boostpro.net 04:33:47 09/16/04 Your 4 p's are wrong: product, price, promotion and place. (n/m) - JeffZTT (ATL) 09:52:55 09/16/04 My class it was packaging as one of the p's. Promotion - AzHeat 10:51:12 09/16/04 Wow. - Dustin 20:52:57 09/16/04 What's to construct, I made mine for $4 . Yes, at - AzHeat 01:53:43 09/17/04 I was tring to reply to your post below - maglito 02:39:48 09/16/04 as a manufacturer i can tell you a few things... - Ted(Snowflake Customs) 05:08:22 09/16/04 the reason for the patent is that down the road - chris@boostpro.net 05:46:13 09/16/04 have you thought of doing something along the lines... - Ted(Snowflake Customs) 05:58:20 09/16/04 in order for you to be able to get a patent - aliaZ (broken in) 07:06:47 09/16/04 Re: in order for you to be able to get a patent - Dustin 21:34:58 09/16/04 right - aliaZ (broken in) 22:59:53 09/16/04 Water flavors are usually tradmarked, not patented. - Dustin 06:58:04 09/17/04 you missed my point entirely - aliaZ (broken in) 08:10:01 09/17/04 Re: you missed my point entirely - Dustin 09:25:00 09/17/04 I see you're fom Tulsa - aliaZ (broken in) 08:11:56 09/17/04 I haven't yet. One of these years I will. - Dustin 09:28:15 09/17/04 Re: Re: in order for you to be able to get a patent - aliaZ (broken in) 08:31:15 09/17/04 Re: Re: Re: in order for you to be able to get a patent - Dustin 10:30:29 09/17/04 You have no idea how the patent system works. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 09:02:14 09/16/04 thats why the family lawyer is doing it... did i mention - chris@boostpro.net 14:26:51 09/16/04 Right, good luck w. that. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 20:58:08 09/16/04 2nd (n/m) - aliaZ (broken in) 22:58:24 09/16/04 lol...you're a naive kid (n/m) - aliaZ (broken in) 22:58:58 09/16/04 2rd (n/m) - Spee 23:47:18 09/16/04 The time/money involved at this point would negate profits - Renner 11:45:30 09/17/04 I think you are right on target. Follow your instincts. - Gordo 93TT NYC 06:56:11 09/16/04 Maybe if he started with a product that couldn't - AzHeat 10:57:08 09/16/04 Agreed; but that should not elicit such a negative response - Gordo 93TT NYC 15:13:44 09/16/04 2nd (n/m) - Dustin 07:56:16 09/17/04
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